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First The Historical Context The LL.B. and its role in Legal History

The LL.B. is the entry level law degree. It stands for Bachelor of Laws . Yes, that means it is an undergraduate degree. It is the standard , entry level law degree in the British Commonwealth.  A nice description of the Historical Origins of the LL.B. was compiled by John Kelly of Canada Law From Abroad. It includes:

In other words the LL.B. designation is still used around the world. This does NOT mean that all LL.B. degrees are the same. The LL.B. used to be the degree of choice in the U.S. Until recently all Canadian common law schools offered the LL.B. degree. They have no transitioned to the J.D.

Law Degrees in North America

What s an LL.B. What s a J.D. What s an LL.M. Why does it matter?

Because of the different designations of law degrees, it is important that you understand what these designations mean.

Canadian LL.B. = Bachelor Of Laws – although the degree takes three years in Canada, and is overwhelmingly taken after a bachelors degree, the LL.B. is an undergraduate degree. You will find the LL.B. degree designation in many countries that are or were part of the British Commonwealth. (Many American universities, in the early years, awarded the LL.B. degree. Click here to see see an LL.B. diploma awarded in 1852 by the University of Pennsylvania law school.) To add confusion to this, in the U.K. you can take either a two year LL.B. or a three year LL.B.

J.D. = Juris Doctor – this is a graduate degree and was initially  a U.S. law degree. In addition,  Canadian (most Canadian law schools have transitioned from the LL.B. to the J.D.) and Australian law schools (Bond) offer a J.D. Make sure that you understand the difference between and ABA (American Bar Association) and non-ABA approved J.D. The former will allow you to take the Bar exam in any U.S. state. Obviously an ABA Approved J.D. is the degree you earn from an ABA approved U.S. law school. Note that NOT all U.S. law schools are ABA approved.

Differences between the Canadian LL.B. and the Canadian J.D.

In Canada a J.D. is simply an LL.B. with a name change. There is no functional difference. This point is made in this interesting article about the Queen s J.D. Almost all the common law schools in Canada have converted their LL.B. degree to a J.D. degree.

Joint Canada U.S. Law Degrees

Interestingly these are programs that allow one to achieve both a Canadian J.D. and an ABA approved J.D. from a U.S. law school. The content of these programs evolve. To understand the principle you want want to read this article I wrote on joint Canada U.S. law degrees .

Canadian law schools have transitioned from the LL.B. to the J.D.

This transition occurred over a period of about 15 years. What follows is a article that I wrote about the Canadian law schools  conversion of Canadian LL.B. degrees to the J.D.

For the most part the transition is now complete. This article (broken links and all) explains why the transition occurred. It is a bit of Canadian law degree history.

Canadian law schools convert the LL.B. degree to J.D. degrees

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This article should be seen as  an update to an article I wrote a number of years about How To Become A Lawyer In North America which appears here:

North American Common Law Degrees

All of the U.S. states and Canadian provinces (with the exception of Louisiana and Quebec) are based on the common law tradition. Quebec and Louisiana are based on the civil law tradition. This article will focus on the common law degrees. In the United States law schools award the J.D. (Juris Doctor). Canada is part of the British Commonwealth. Canadian law schools, until recently, have awarded the LL.B. (Bachelor of Laws).

More On The LLB . The Role It Plays Towards Becoming A Lawyer

The LL.B. degree is a designation which means Bachelor of Laws . It is the basic law degree which has been offered by law schools in the British Commonwealth. It is by definition an undergraduate degree. In the U.K. it is common for students to study law as an undergraduate subject. Canada has 15 law schools which traditionally offered the LL.B. degree. After earning this degree, students would use this degree as the academic qualification to complete the licensing process to become a lawyer in a Canadian province.

More On The J.D. The Role It Plays Towards Becoming A Lawyer

The J.D. degree is a designation which means Juris Doctor . An interesting article  about the origins of the J.D. may be found here:

It is important to recognize:

  1. In the U.S. the  J.D. is a graduate degree. People attend law school in the U.S. after having earned a bachelors degree; and
  2. The J.D. provides the academic qualification to become admitted to the bar in the U.S.
  3. There is a difference between a J.D. that is ABA approved and a J.D. that is not ABA approved. An ABA Approved J.D. will allow one to take the bar exam in every U.S. state. A J.D. that is NOT ABA Approved will NOT allow one to take the bar exam in every state, but will normally allow one to take the bar exam in some U.S. states.

Canadian law schools and the J.D. degree Joint LLB ./J.D. Programs

Over the last decade, three Canadian law schools (Windsor, Ottawa and Osgoode) have partnered with U.S. law schools to offer a joint LL.B./J.D. program. In each case, the students would earn two degrees:

         a Canadian LL.B. (or J.D.) degree

         a U.S. J.D. degree which is ABA approved.

For an earlier article I wrote on these degrees see:

The key point is that graduates of Canadian LL.B./J.D. programs earn a J.D. from a U.S. law school  that is ABA approved.

These degrees continue to be popular.

A number of Canadian law schools are now changing their LL.B. degrees to J.D. degrees.  This change should be seen as an LL.B. with a name change.  (By the fall of all 6 Ontario law schools have changed their  degree to the J.D.  degree.)

Canadian law schools converting the LL.B. to the J.D.

When a Canadian law school changes from the LL.B. to the J.D. (which they all are or will), it should be seen as  an LL.B. with a name change. A J.D. from a Canadian law school is not an ABA Approved J.D. In other words a Canadian J.D. degree will not allow one to take the bar exam in every U.S. state. (There are some U.S. states which will allow Canadian law graduates whether an LL.B. or J.D.  to take their bar exam.)

Three points are important:

1. Again to be clear a J.D. from a Canadian law school is NOT ABA approved and therefore will not allow one to take the bar exam in every U.S.  state.

2. Graduates of Canadian LLB./J.D. programs will have earned an ABA approved J.D. from an American law school in addition to a Canadian law degree from a Canadian law school. Because they will have an ABA approved J.D. from an American law school, they will be able to take the bar exam in any and every U.S. state.

3. A Canadian law school that has an LL.B./J.D. program (I am thinking specifically of Osgoode) who then changes  their LL.B to a J.D. will be in exactly the same position as in 2 above. Specifically graduates will earn a non-ABA approved J.D. from Osgoode and an ABA approved J.D. from NYU. (Note that in the Osgoode and NYU joint degree program was discontinued. Osgoode  now  has  a joint J.D./LL.M. program  with NYU.)

Why are Canadian law schools converting the J.D.?

It is the view of many Canadian law schools that the J.D. is better regarded internationally. Although I am unwilling to express an opinion on that, I will refer you to the following articles:

Queen s Rationale for change

Canadian Lawyer reports that Dalhousie is also considering the change from LL.B. to J.D .

What Canadian law schools have converted to the J.D.?

At the present time the following schools have converted their LLB. degrees to J.D. degrees:

         University of Toronto

         Queen s

         Osgoode

(Since  this article was originally written, Western, Windsor  and Ottawa and converted to the J.D.)

         University of British Columbia

Those considering the transition include:

         University of Western Ontario (now converted to the J.D.)

         University of Calgary

         Dahousie

McGill change under consideration:

Note also the following Facebook group which makes it clear that the University of Calgary is also making the switch to the J.D.

Osgoode change under consideration:

University of British Columbia Change made:



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